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Theft too petty

Laws against stealing appear to be primarily concerned with protecting the individual, but if we step back we can see that the laws are more concerned with guarding the foundations of community.

And as I write in my column today, the theft of a few Caramello Koalas from a fundraising box is not going to threaten the community. And since it is me who'll cover the loss in this instance, no harm has been done. So does it matter? Does petty theft matter?

Taking that line a little further seems to throw grand theft into a new light.

One of the community's great problems is the imbalance of wealth, and so grand theft that goes towards correcting that imbalance might not be such a bad thing.

Indeed, grand theft might be a good deal more positive than petty theft that changes nothing!

That's a progression from the argument that petty theft doesn't really matter.

And if the difference between petty theft and grand theft is just one of degree, at the petty end of the scale it might not even register as theft. Our language seems to think that's the case. That's why we use the words pinch and nick and snaffle and shoplift instead of steal.

As you know, the Iemma Government wants police to fine rather than charge people for stealing goods up to a value of $300, which is a quasi decriminalisation of petty theft.

Maybe we should scrub the quasi and decriminalise petty theft altogether.

The law in this case achieves no good purpose and certainly is not effective in discouraging petty theft. And as is the case with offensive-language laws, petty theft laws may be used as a police weapon against minorities. And in a free country, should we even try to legislate morality?

Should pinching something be recognised formally as a bit of mischief, no real harm done?

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To distribute some wealth more usefully, why not abolish all professional sportsmen/women? They can get a real job during the week and play sport, as it was originally intended, as a leisure pursuit. All that sponsorship and pokie income could then be spread around the community, hopefully where it is more needed. And that, Jeff, would not be in the pockets of mostly illiterate, uncivilised boofs whose claim to fame is in a fortunate pattern of genes.
Posted by Alex Ross on 21/07/2008 9:22:10 AM
Should pinching something, you ask Jeff, be recognised as a bit of mischief, no harm intended and none done? Not at all.
Posted by hiee on 21/07/2008 10:07:23 AM
Going all Bolshi on us, Comrade Jeff? There's nothing "petty" about theft - by taking the fruits of another person's labour, you are essentially stealing time from their life. They invested time to earn the money to stock their shop, buy their mobile, whatever - the thief is nothing but a useless parasite that sucks the life out of the productive members of society. Off with their hands, I say. If there's one thing the West could learn from the Taliban, it's how to deal with criminals. This move to "decriminalise" theft is just more of the garbage we've come to expect. Smack addicts can shoot up in a govco-sponsored facility (after they've made off with your DVD player to pay for their latest hit), thieves and other sundry scum cop petty fines, and kitten-killers who will inevitably progress to mistreating animals that walk on two legs get a slap on the wrist. The results are 100% predictable. The only way to stop crime is to make the consequences of committing a crime so terrible that only the insane dare to contemplate it - and you can deal with them once and for all when they are caught. Remember, the vast majority of crime is committed by those with a criminal history. By removing them permanently from circulation, you do away with the vast majority of crime.
Posted by Scott Hillard on 21/07/2008 10:13:04 AM
Jeff, what happens when the thief does not pay the $300 infringement fine? Most of the petty thieves are drug dependent, without a job, a licence or a vehicle. So the next step six months after the fine has been ignored is to cancel your licence and registration, then possibly the Sheriffs Dept serves notice on you that they are going to repossess any items you own of value. So the thief knows from the start that the fine is a joke! The only way to deter the petty thief is a court appearance. Community Service Order and if that is not adhered too, go to jail. In Australia we have a good social security network, with many charities willing to help with everything you need to support yourself if you are able. You can get food, clothes, rent assistance, public housing, legal aid, medical, training and the list goes on. Utilise these options, don't steal! We have many deserving souls with a disability who are struggling and not stealing, while the thief, drains money and goes on his/her merry way.
Posted by Buell on 21/07/2008 1:57:53 PM
Scott you have disappointed me - not that you would probably be worried about that. Just when you got to the point about the Taliban, chopping off hands etc, you back off. I was hoping you would declare a Jihad on chocolate thieves. I'll Have to do it myself now. A JIHAD ON CHOCOLATE THIEVES!!!
Posted by sergeant smith on 21/07/2008 2:11:32 PM
I like the sound of this.
Posted by Jeff Corbett on 21/07/2008 2:41:25 PM
"By removing them permanently from circulation, you do away with the vast majority of crime" - Scott Hillard. I believe this solution was tried some 220 years ago. Exactly what are you proposing?
Posted by Luke on 22/07/2008 12:34:51 AM
I thought it was pretty obvious, Luke. For the first offence of a serious nature - murder, attempted murder, kiddy fiddling, etc - a bullet in the back of the neck. 3 strikes and out for all other real crimes - theft, burglary, sexual assault, drink driving, etc - 3 convictions and a bullet in the back of the neck. Of course we would need to eliminate non-crimes and thought crimes to ensure real justice prevails, and would need to empower citizens to take appropriate action when confronted with an immediate criminal threat. By that I mean total immunity if you take to a burglar with a shotgun or baseball bat.
Posted by Scott Hillard on 22/07/2008 11:41:58 AM
Scott, you dont think you'd be letting them off too easy do you?
Posted by sergeant smith on 23/07/2008 3:43:31 PM
Hey Jeff, I'm wondering if you or your readers are interested in setting up an online blog to discuss the problems with the RTA? The punitive nature of the RTA has made it a privilege to own a car. Only those who can afford to pay the inevitable and unavoidable fines can drive! This morning they towed me from outside my own home and it really was the last straw. It would be great if we could motivate some community action to combat this mafia-type organisation.
Posted by RTA extortion on 10/08/2008 8:39:47 PM
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